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DAVE

What it is

DAVE is a Chord DAC that Watts designed around a single FPGA and a discrete pulse array, with no DAC chip Head-Fi, Jun 2015Head-Fi, Oct 2015. The UK retail price of £7,995 was announced at Munich in May 2015, and on 3 October 2015 he said release was due later that month Head-Fi, Oct 2015; on 2 November he said the delay was his, as production code had not gone to Chord Head-Fi, Nov 2015.

Design

One FPGA, about ten times Hugo's capacity, runs everything including the display, apart from the galvanically isolated USB decoder Head-Fi, Oct 2015. In 2022 he gave the chain: WTA1 to 16FS (705 or 768 kHz), WTA2 to 256FS, then a three-stage IIR filter to 104.25 MHz before the noise shapers drive the 20-element pulse array Head-Fi, Jul 2022. He gave DAVE's tap count as 164,000 in 2015, 2018 and 2022, the 2022 post naming it as WTA1's Head-Fi, Mar 2015article, Apr 2018Head-Fi, May 2022.

In 2015 he described the noise shaper as 5 bits at 104 MHz, 17th order, with 350 dB digital-domain THD and noise Head-Fi, Jul 2015. In 2016 he said its output is 6 bits including overload bits, covering 0 to 20 elements Head-Fi, Mar 2016. In 2022 he said the final shaper "was not limited to 17th order", as going higher gave worse sound quality Head-Fi, Jun 2022.

The pulse array has 20 elements per channel, each a flip-flop and resistor Head-Fi, Mar 2016Head-Fi, Nov 2019, chosen over 16 for overload margin Head-Fi, Jan 2016. The output stage is a discrete Class A stage inside one feedback loop, with a second-order analog noise shaper on the single-ended output Head-Fi, May 2016. He said his DACs, DAVE included, have one amplifier, two resistors and two capacitors in the direct path, with an extra inverting amplifier for DAVE's balanced outputs, and no coupling capacitors Head-Fi, Feb 2018Head-Fi, Aug 2018.

Inputs, outputs and power

A 2022 interview lists BNC, AES, optical and USB inputs Upscale Audio 6:27. The M Scaler connects to the dual BNC inputs, BNC 1 and 2 or 3 and 4 Head-Fi, Feb 2017. DSD plays as DoP or native ASIO, native being the only route for DSD512 Head-Fi, Dec 2015. PCM+ is 164,000 taps with Hugo's DSD filter; DSD+ is 82,000 taps with a non-decimating DSD filter Head-Fi, Nov 2015Head-Fi, Oct 2015.

Headphone and line outputs share one amplifier Head-Fi, Aug 2015; output impedance is 0.055 ohm single-ended and 33 ohms balanced Head-Fi, Dec 2016. He gave the maximum output at 1% THD as 6.75 V RMS in November 2015, into 300 ohms Head-Fi, Nov 2015Head-Fi, Nov 2015, and again as 6.75 V in July 2022 Head-Fi, Jul 2022, and as 6.8 V RMS into 300 and 33 ohms in another November 2015 post Head-Fi, Nov 2015. The current limit is 0.5 A RMS, giving 2.1 W into 8 ohms Head-Fi, Jan 2018. At -3 dB the output is 3 V RMS for a full-scale input Head-Fi, Feb 2018. Balanced XLR is not for headphones Head-Fi, Feb 2016.

DX outputs carry 705 or 768 kHz with volume data for his planned power amplifiers; in 2019 he called them "for future products only" Head-Fi, May 2016Head-Fi, Feb 2019.

The supply is a medical-grade switch-mode unit taking 90 to 263 V Head-Fi, Aug 2016Head-Fi, May 2018, and DAVE is connected to mains earth Head-Fi, Apr 2019. He said that unit is not the critical part: the output stage supply impedance is 3 milliohms and the discrete reference is under 0.1 milliohm Head-Fi, Aug 2016. In 2024 he said "A battery in DAVE is a good idea" and that designing it today he would do it differently MFG Audio Reviews 56:32.

How he says to use it

In 2016 he rated USB best, then optical Head-Fi, Feb 2016; in 2018 he called optical the best input Head-Fi, Jan 2018; in 2022 he called his 2016 preference a post where "I made a mistake" Head-Fi, Mar 2022 (see Which input sounds best on a Chord DAC (optical, coax, USB or…, Which Chord inputs are galvanically isolated, and which setups…, Do digital cables (USB, coax, glass or plastic optical) make a…).

With an M Scaler, set OP SR to white and use both dual BNC outputs on one DAVE pair, left BNC to the lower pair Head-Fi, Sep 2018Head-Fi, Feb 2019 (see How do I connect the M Scaler to DAVE, and why does dual BNC only…, My DAC drops out, clicks or loses lock. What should I check before…, Which BNC cables, and what length, should I use between an M…). He keeps his DAVEs in PCM+ with M Scalers Head-Fi, May 2018, runs the HF filter off with the M Scaler Head-Fi, Jan 2023 (see Which filter setting should I use on Hugo 2, TT2 or Qutest, and…), and says never to upsample at the source Head-Fi, Mar 2018 (see Should I upsample in software (HQPlayer, PGGB or my player) before…).

Volume is fully digital and, he says, does not change sound quality Head-Fi, Mar 2016Head-Fi, Mar 2016. DAC mode is pre-amp mode fixed at -3 dB Head-Fi, Apr 2022 (see Should I use a pre-amp (tube or solid state), or run the Chord DAC…). He advised against an external headphone amp; the Susvara, at 92 dB SPL, is a case where a listener might want more Head-Fi, Dec 2015Head-Fi, Jan 2022 (see Is my Chord DAC powerful enough for my headphones?, Should I add an external headphone amp to a Chord DAC?, Can Hugo, Hugo 2, Mojo, TT2 or DAVE drive loudspeakers directly…).

Crossfeed has 0 (off, the default), 1 (minimum) and 3 (maximum) Head-Fi, Feb 2016Head-Fi, Dec 2015. He prefers 3 on headphones Head-Fi, Feb 2016, and the control stays active for speakers until unset Head-Fi, Feb 2018 (see What does crossfeed do, which setting should I use, and why didn't…).

He keeps his DAVE on Head-Fi, Jul 2021 (see Should I leave my Qutest, TT2, DAVE or M Scaler switched on all…), doubted there is much physical break-in Head-Fi, Mar 2016 (see Do Chord DACs need burn-in or warm-up?), and did not recommend changing the supplied PSU Head-Fi, Apr 2021 (see Should I replace the supplied power supply with a linear or…).

Compared with other Chord models

In 2015 he said DAVE was "about four times deeper with recordings that have good depth" than Hugo Head-Fi, Oct 2015; in 2018 he gave 26,000 taps for Hugo against 164,000 article, Apr 2018.

In 2018 he called DAVE "completely unbeatable in terms of transparency, particularly in soundstage depth" against Hugo 2, while saying Blu 2 with Hugo 2 wins on timbre, rhythm, bass and instrument power Head-Fi, Feb 2018. He said M-scaled DAVE beats M-scaled TT2 in every regard Head-Fi, Mar 2019 and TT2 has higher distortion Head-Fi, Mar 2023. With an M Scaler, he described DAVE over Qutest as a step up in transparency, depth and detail, with 30 times lower distortion Head-Fi, Aug 2018.

From 2016 to 2022 he said no DAVE 2 was planned or started Head-Fi, Nov 2016Head-Fi, Jan 2018Head-Fi, Aug 2020Head-Fi, Feb 2022, and in 2023 and 2024 talks that he had not started a replacement Eric's Hi-Fi 8:36HIFICLUB 50:50. In October 2026 he said he could not talk about future development Distorsiuni Interioare 1:17:34. In the Soundnews interview (recorded autumn 2026, published October 2026) he called the Ultima DAC he still has to finish "a completely different product" from DAVE article, Oct 2026article, Oct 2026article, Oct 2026. Asked whether a DAVE successor could hold Quartet in one chassis, he said "I think that would be a nightmare", while adding "I never say no, but the difficulty of preventing the noise of all the processing from upsetting the DAC was an enormous challenge" article, Oct 2026. Asked if DAVE is still the perfect partner for Quartet, he said yes but "it is not the perfect DAC" article, Oct 2026article, Oct 2026.

Release and official documents

From Chord Electronics. Links open Chord's own copies; reviews hosted on Chord's site are left out. Chord's DAVE page.

Manuals and guides

Drivers (Windows)

Other

Key figures

His own figures, dated. Where he gave different figures at different times, each appears.

Show all 40 figures
FigureValueWhenSource
WTA1 filter taps164,000 (2015-03; repeated 2018-04 and 2022-05, and in 2022-08 and 2024-07 talks)2015-03Head-Fi, Mar 2015HIFICLUBE.NET JVH 45article, Apr 2018Head-Fi, May 2022AVstore 6:55HIFICLUB 50:42
DSP cores running in parallel for the first WTA stage160 (at half the original speed)2015-03Head-Fi, Mar 2015
DSP cores running in parallel for WTA filtering1662015-05Head-Fi, May 2015HIFICLUBE.NET JVH 1:17
Taps in DSD+ mode82,000 (PCM+ is 164,000)2015-11Head-Fi, Nov 2015
Filter chainWTA1 to 16FS (705.6 or 768 kHz); WTA2 to 256FS; three-stage IIR filter to 104.25 MHz2022-07Head-Fi, Jul 2022
Transient timing reconstruction at 256FS88 nS2015-11Head-Fi, Nov 2015
Noise shaper word length and rate5 bits at 104 MHz2015-07Head-Fi, Jul 2015HIFICLUBE.NET JVH 2:41
Noise shaper order17th order (2015-07); in 2022-06 he said the final shaper was not limited to 17th order, as going higher sounded worse2015-07Head-Fi, Jul 2015Head-Fi, Jun 2022
Noise shaper output including overload bits6 bits, range 0 to 20 elements2016-03Head-Fi, Mar 2016
Noise shaper integrators (Hifistatement German text; English is a machine translation)17th order with 46 integrators2016-01article, Jan 2016
Noise shaper in-band digital performance350 dB THD and noise (stated as -350 dB in 2015-10)2015-07Head-Fi, Jul 2015Head-Fi, Oct 2015
Digital test signal reproduced exactly-301 dB2016-03Head-Fi, Mar 2016
Pulse array elements20 per channel2016-01Head-Fi, Jan 2016Head-Fi, Nov 2019
FPGA power dissipation5 W (Hugo 0.8 W)2015-05Head-Fi, May 2015
FPGA supply current5 A2015-10Head-Fi, Oct 2015
Maximum output, headphone and RCA, at 1% THD6.75 V RMS (2015-11, into 300 ohms; repeated 2022-07 without a load stated), also given as 6.8 V RMS into 300 ohms and 33 ohms (2015-11; 1.4 W into 33 ohms); the rating he quoted was 6 V RMS, which he said the unit exceeds2015-11Head-Fi, Nov 2015Head-Fi, Nov 2015Head-Fi, Nov 2015Head-Fi, Jul 2022
Output at -3 dB volume, full-scale input3 V RMS (0 dB is 4.24 V RMS, same as Hugo)2018-02Head-Fi, Feb 2018
Balanced XLR outputup to 12 V RMS (+3 dB volume); 6 V RMS plus and minus at -3 dB; clipping at 13.6 V RMS2018-03Head-Fi, Aug 2015Head-Fi, Mar 2016Head-Fi, Mar 2018
Output impedance0.055 ohm single-ended; 33 ohms balanced2016-12Head-Fi, Dec 2016
Headphone current limit0.5 A RMS; 2.1 W into 8 ohms2018-01Head-Fi, Nov 2015Head-Fi, Jan 2018
THD at 1 kHz, 2.5 V RMS0.000016% into 300 ohms and 0.000059% into 33 ohms (2015-11); 0.000007% into 300 ohms (2016-08)2015-11Head-Fi, Nov 2015Head-Fi, Aug 2016
Noise floor (APx555)close to -180 dB, identical with and without signal2015-06Head-Fi, Jun 2015
Noise floor (APx555)-179 dB, identical with and without signal (Nintronics open day talk, November 2018, uploaded December 2018)2018-11Pursuit Perfect System 18:40
THD and noise, -60 dBFS, A-weighted2.6 uV, -128.4 dB re 6.8 V RMS (-117.7 dB re 2 V)2016-03Head-Fi, Mar 2016
Dynamic range, A-weighted127 dB re 6.75 V RMS (2022-07); -127.5 dB at 2.5 V re maximum output (2016-08); in the pulse array switch-off test, 128 dB going to 128.5 dB in a December 2017 post and 128.5 dB going to 129 dB in an October 2017 talk (video published 2017-12)2022-07Head-Fi, Jul 2022Head-Fi, Dec 2017Head-Fi, Aug 2016RMAF 43:11
Reference supply impedanceunder 0.1 milliohm at the feedback point; 0.5 milliohm at each flip-flop2016-08Head-Fi, Aug 2016
Output stage supply impedance3 milliohms2016-08Head-Fi, Aug 2016
Reference noise, 20 Hz to 20 kHz0.22 uV (2016-05); under 0.3 uV (2016-08)2016-08Head-Fi, May 2016Head-Fi, Aug 2016
Switch-mode supply input range90 to 263 V, 47 to 440 Hz2016-08Head-Fi, Aug 2016
WTA coefficient accuracy against ideal sinc13.9 bits (about 14 bits in 2015-06)2018-03Head-Fi, Mar 2018Head-Fi, Jun 2015
Latency (stated for the M Scaler video mode as the same as DAVE)104 mS; in October 2017 he gave the delay of DAVE's 164,000-tap filter as about 0.2 s, and in 2015 he described a lower-delay WTA setting for video; he did not reconcile these figures2018-03Head-Fi, Mar 2018Head-Fi, Oct 2017Head-Fi, Jun 2015
Highest temperature stated for DAVEnothing above 75 deg C2018-03Head-Fi, Mar 2018
Display mean time to failureover 50,000 hours2021-07Head-Fi, Jul 2021
Design life targethalf life exceeding 25 years2022-06Head-Fi, Jun 2022
UK retail price7,995 pounds2015-10Head-Fi, Oct 2015
DX output705 or 768 kHz, 24 bits, full level, volume in user data2016-05Head-Fi, May 2016
Crossfeed settings0 off, 1 minimum, 3 maximum2016-02Head-Fi, Feb 2016
Clipping onset by volume setting, solo+4 dB (2016-01, 2016-05); +5 dB with headphones (2016-10); +3 dB (2019-04); +4 dB (2022-01)2022-01Head-Fi, Jan 2016Head-Fi, May 2016Head-Fi, Oct 2016Head-Fi, Apr 2019Head-Fi, Jan 2022
Clipping onset by volume setting, with M Scaler+6 dB (2019-04); +7 dB (2022-01)2022-01Head-Fi, Apr 2019Head-Fi, Jan 2022
Design efforttwo and a half full-time years (2018-12); 2 to 3 years (2019-06); more than 3 years (2020-08); nearly 3 years (2022-07)2018-12Head-Fi, Dec 2018Head-Fi, Jun 2019Head-Fi, Aug 2020Head-Fi, Jul 2022

Quotes

“Hugo and Dave don't use any kind of DAC chip, the analogue conversion is discrete using pulse array.”2015-06-18 Head-Fi, Jun 2015
“Dave's noise shapers are accurate to -350 dB and this was the performance required by depth perception.”2015-10-30 Head-Fi, Oct 2015
“In 2016 with Dave I did indeed prefer the brightness of USB, and I thought it was down to the technical benefits of Dave supplying the clock with USB.”2022-03-27 Head-Fi, Mar 2022
“I did everything I wanted to do, and I have not worked out how I will fundamentally beat it.”2018-12-08 Head-Fi, Dec 2018

Caveats and open points

  • The '17th order with 46 integrators' figure comes from the German text of the 2016-01 Hifistatement interview (the publisher's translation; the English here is a machine translation of it), so it is not his wording; 17th order also appears in his own Head-Fi post of 2015-07.
  • Many 2015 posts predate production code. On 2015-10-06 he called DAVE a work in progress with small improvements still coming, and on 2015-11-02 he said production code was not yet delivered, so early figures are pre-production unless he repeated them later (164,000 taps was repeated in 2018 and 2022).
  • Noise shaper description changed with the question: 5 bits (2015-05 transcript and 2015-07), 6 bits including overload bits (2016-03), 17th order (2015-07). In 2022-06 he said the final shaper 'was not limited to 17th order' because going higher gave worse sound; he did not state a different final order.
  • DSP core counts differ: 160 for the first WTA stage in a 2015-03 post (Head-Fi, Mar 2015), 166 in 2015-05 (Head-Fi, May 2015). His account of the filter design also differs: four redesigns for timing closure (2015-03, Head-Fi, Mar 2015), two failed designs before the working one (2017-10, miceblue425 28:44), and a start near 200,000 taps (2018-07, c w 20:10).
  • Maximum output differs by date and condition: 6 V RMS was the quoted figure (2015-06), he gave 6.75 V RMS at 1% THD in two November 2015 posts and again in July 2022, 6.8 V RMS in a third November 2015 post, and +4 dB volume gave 6.7 V RMS (2016-05) Head-Fi, Nov 2015Head-Fi, Nov 2015Head-Fi, Nov 2015Head-Fi, Jul 2022Head-Fi, May 2016. The record does not settle which of 6.75 and 6.8 is exact.
  • Clipping thresholds are given as +4 dB (2016-01, 2016-05), +5 dB into a 46 ohm headphone (2016-03, Head-Fi, Mar 2016), +5 dB for headphones (2016-10, Head-Fi, Oct 2016), +5 dB for material peaking at -1 dBFS (2017-08, Head-Fi, Aug 2017), +3 dB (2019-04), and +4 dB solo or +7 dB with an M Scaler (2022-01); a 2018-06 post about a Blu 2 plus DAVE stack says no voltage clipping at +6 dB but a possible current limit into 8 ohms (Head-Fi, Jun 2018). Each was stated for a specific load or source level.
  • His input ranking changed: USB best, then optical (2016-02), optical as the reference (2018-01), and in 2022-03 he called his 2016 USB preference a mistake. A 2018-04 post still opens with 'USB is best' (Head-Fi, Apr 2018).
  • His development-time statements differ: two and a half full-time years (2018-12, Head-Fi, Dec 2018), 2 to 3 years (2019-06, Head-Fi, Jun 2019), more than 3 years (2020-08, Head-Fi, Aug 2020), nearly 3 years (2022-07, Head-Fi, Jul 2022).
  • Head-Fi, Nov 2019 (pulse array elements are per channel, in the TT2 thread) has a date estimated from post IDs. Head-Fi, Mar 2018 and Head-Fi, Mar 2018 are from other products' threads and are used only for statements about DAVE.
  • Posts about 'Blu Dave' describe a Blu Mk2 feeding DAVE and do not necessarily apply to DAVE alone. The 2016-02 '$13k' remark in Head-Fi, Feb 2016 is a dealer's, relayed by Watts, not a Chord price.
  • The UK price of 7,995 pounds is the only price he gave; local prices were set by distributors (Head-Fi, Oct 2015). A 2016 Weekly ASCII article gives size, weight and a Japanese price, but in the author's words, not his.
  • In the Soundnews interview (recorded autumn 2026, published 2026-10), 'a completely different product' answers a question about the Ultima DAC (article, Oct 2026 to #p103), not Quartet. Interviewers' statements in that and the Distorsiuni Interioare podcast (for example that Quartet unlocks DAVE's full 768 kHz) are not his and are not cited as facts.
  • Measured figures differ by date: THD at 2.5 V into 300 ohms was 0.000016% (2015-11) and 0.000007% (2016-08); he cited 0.000015% THD in 2016-03 (Head-Fi, Mar 2016). Dynamic range was -128.4 dB re 6.8 V (2016-03), -127.5 dB (2016-08), 128.5 dB in the October 2017 RMAF talk against 128 dB in a December 2017 post Head-Fi, Dec 2017, and 127 dB (2022-07).

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